Return-Path: X-Original-To: jtadeusz@april.org Delivered-To: jtadeusz@april.org Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44553153077E; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:06:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "Sender" Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nFA4XSCJN1JX; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:06:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: by pavot.april.org (Postfix, from userid 102) id A49F81530780; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:06:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AAB1530660 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:54:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r1l5t+zUqZSQ for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:54:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D819153004D for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:54:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id b13so431035wgh.6 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 05:54:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:references :user-agent:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jlYdZseN6N+yPLEE34hXOpzarO9dnB4ELmASlq/H1FA=; b=nqMIWRg251avHHgYLvV5T2h9eovLvbcb69Q7m2hydAvYBMLX5RjGB0Wk3zsGCIshkv zsdnBbZyWr9J/9BWiFNP0BPVmOsdUkf4jpr/OCxqG3Bf5Dy9Z6b2/apqdPRAKDYQ0w14 Wvp9awGXPR8EqTtN5hta40JA70DygTyGufGLDTl4ZRAUgY1mXw7FHMTyhIh13D5yB34v nTMxiXB7D3B+R6RJv2aADbZDYOg95fNFwsu+VDioGnOcN97IwC0e5cHH81bnAt6ycqtv aVfNNSHAXImF9c/ks//qXJWM058trFXMDmi//xTN85CeCoAMYuOzksyvjWRyZaqfdC7R OLVA== X-Received: by 10.194.104.168 with SMTP id gf8mr3653456wjb.58.1366116847857; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 05:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ej8sm19270605wib.9.2013.04.16.05.54.04 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Apr 2013 05:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Bastien Guerry Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 51DC31C218DA; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:54:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien To: ARCdev Cc: Jean-Yves Jeannas - AFUL , Educ , ca@aful.org, APRIL-Education-LD In-Reply-To: <516C1299.4090105@free.fr> (arcdev@free.fr's message of "Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:45:45 +0200") Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:01:07 +0200 References: <516BBB4F.4070709@aful.org> <516C1299.4090105@free.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Message-ID: <87wqs2fxg4.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Validation-by: bzg@altern.org Subject: [EDUC] Re: [Educ] reunion ITIC et journee pedagogique SIF X-Loop: educ@april.org X-Sequence: 4870 Errors-to: educ-owner@april.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: educ-request@april.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1366117602-3666-16" X-Length: 5365 Status: R X-Status: NT X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent: X-UID: 0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1366117602-3666-16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, ARCdev writes: > En relisant la question de départ (exemples où l'absence de culture > numérique ou science informatique peut être pénalisant.), je m'aperçois que > ma réponse pourrait être : > > est-ce l'absence de culture numérique ou informatique qui est pénalisante > ou l'absence de culture tout court ?! L'une des réponses de l'école à l'absence de culture est d'essayer de renforcer les connaissances et les savoirs-faire dans des domaines particuliers et de renforcer les connaissances générales. Le question est de savoir : comment faire comprendre à tous que le peu de culture générale que les élèves ont en informatique est un problème qui exige qu'on renforce les connaissances dans ce domaine particulier qu'est l'informatique ? Des exemples utilisables sont les bienvenus. -- Bastien ------------=_1366117602-3666-16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; name="message-footer.txt" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="message-footer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Pour gérer votre abonnement à la liste educ et vos informations personnelles : http://listes.april.org/wws/info/educ ------------=_1366117602-3666-16--