Return-Path: X-Original-To: jtadeusz@april.org Delivered-To: jtadeusz@april.org Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F068130C0B1C; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:44:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gpqtUBMjN7Hx; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:44:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by pavot.april.org (Postfix, from userid 102) id 34CC130C0A19; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:44:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209F530C09F6 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:44:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fed5Ccrw8xBy for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:44:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (smtp2-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.2]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EEB30C0287 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:44:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from zimbra18-e3.priv.proxad.net (unknown [172.20.243.168]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2944B008E; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:44:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:44:20 +0100 (CET) From: cnestel@free.fr To: mbottoli@voyager.archi.it Cc: =?utf-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= FONTAINE , =?utf-8?B?UsOpbWk=?= Boulle , educ@april.org Message-ID: <1442281471.591916802.1385397860301.JavaMail.root@zimbra18-e3.priv.proxad.net> In-Reply-To: <52935C60.3030900@voyager.archi.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [2a01:e35:2e0e:1160:21d:92ff:fe84:279c] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.0-GA2598 (zclient/7.2.0-GA2598) X-Authenticated-User: cnestel@free.fr Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmXCoDogUmU6IFtFRFVDXQ==?= IGEN chez Microsoft X-Loop: educ@april.org X-Sequence: 5336 Errors-to: educ-owner@april.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: educ-request@april.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1385397876-14769-1212" X-Length: 4064 Status: R X-Status: NT X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent: X-UID: 0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1385397876-14769-1212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Marie-Odile Morandi a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > Bonjour, > Selon moi, ils sont ignorants dans le sens qu'ils ne savent pas. Pour=20 > beaucoup qui se retiennent de purs esprits, l'informatique c'est de la= =20 > technique et l'=C3=A2me de la technique n'est gu=C3=A8re enseign=C3=A9e. > Les profs de philo connaissent les Grecs AC mais pas Stiegler et autres= =20 > d'aujourd'hui ! >=20 > C=E2=80=99=C3=A9tait ma minute de m=C3=A9chancet=C3=A9.......... mais j'a= urais =C3=A0 dire sur le=20 > monde enseignant et l'informatique ! Stiegler ne doit pas =C3=A9chapper =C3=A0 nos critiques. Avec sa th=C3=A9orie des hypermati=C3=A8res et de l'hyperindustrialisation il d=C3=A9bouche sur un refus logique de s=C3=A9parer le hardware du softwa= re. Paradigme fondamental en mati=C3=A8re de refus des brevets logiciels. Et je me suis pris derni=C3=A8rement la t=C3=AAte avec lui =C3=A0 Aix-en-Pr= ovence, entre autre sur ce sujet.=20 Librement, Charlie ------------=_1385397876-14769-1212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; name="message-footer.txt" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="message-footer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Pour gérer votre abonnement à la liste educ et vos informations personnelles : http://listes.april.org/wws/info/educ ------------=_1385397876-14769-1212--