Return-Path: X-Original-To: jtadeusz@april.org Delivered-To: jtadeusz@april.org Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEBC30C0A0C; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:30:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4ih2E6vkeLpl; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:30:20 +0100 (CET) Received: by pavot.april.org (Postfix, from userid 102) id 1BACE30C09E7; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:30:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA3E30C09CD; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:29:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ra6B1SlSFuHn; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:29:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from briaree.onecert.fr (briaree.onecert.fr [134.212.190.4]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7E530C09B6; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:28:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from neree.onecert.fr (thetis.onecert.fr [134.212.178.12]) by briaree.onecert.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id rBDAS6ku011468; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:28:06 +0100 Received: from neree.onecert.fr (thetis.antiviral [127.0.0.1]) by neree.onecert.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id rBDAS60K009664; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:28:06 +0100 Received: from cottos.onecert.fr (cottos.onecert.fr [134.212.90.4]) by neree.onecert.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id rBDAS6IW009661; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:28:06 +0100 Received: from [134.212.27.182] (ct-ldtim901h.onecert.fr [134.212.27.182]) by cottos.onecert.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABC16EE2F; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:28:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <52AAE133.3070307@chemouil.fr> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:28:03 +0100 From: David Chemouil User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?T2RpbGUgQsOpbmFzc3k=?= , educ@april.org References: <20131213093622.4207eade@cecile.fremen.dune> <20131213095519.5cecc041@mage.lix.polytechnique.fr> <20131213102127.5608d01e@cecile.fremen.dune> In-Reply-To: <20131213102127.5608d01e@cecile.fremen.dune> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (briaree.onecert.fr [134.212.190.4]); Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:28:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at briaree.onecert.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Validation-by: david@chemouil.fr Subject: Re: [EDUC] Critique "subtile" du libre X-Loop: educ@april.org X-Sequence: 5446 Errors-to: educ-owner@april.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: educ-request@april.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1386930611-12485-680" X-Length: 4462 Status: R X-Status: NT X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent: X-UID: 0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1386930611-12485-680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Le 13/12/2013 10:21, Odile Bénassy a écrit : > Je suis d'accord que c'est du FUD mais les arguments (faisant habilement référence à un bouquin en vogue) portent, et je soupçonne même que ce pourrait être une collection d'"arguments" du même genre qui font que les syndicats, et certain parti politique au pouvoir, détournent le plus souvent le regard quand ils nous voient arriver :-( Du FUD ?? Alors là on n'a vraiment pas lu la même chose :-) C'est quand même une évidence que toute organisation sociale charie son lot d'ídéologie, de présupposés, etc. et rencontre d'autres idéologies. Ça ne me semble pas du FUD de dire que le LL ne coupe pas à ça. david ------------=_1386930611-12485-680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; name="message-footer.txt" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="message-footer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Pour gérer votre abonnement à la liste educ et vos informations personnelles : http://listes.april.org/wws/info/educ ------------=_1386930611-12485-680--