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From: Thierry Vedel <vedelta2000@yahoo.fr>
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Bonsoir,

Pour r=C3=A9pondre plus pr=C3=A9cis=C3=A9ment, il faut s'entendre sur le mo=
t libre.
Certaine licences pr=C3=A9cises, non commercial, =C3=A0 ce moment l=C3=A0 j=
e ne peux pas commercialiser, les puristes consid=C3=A8rent que ce n'est pa=
s du libre.

=C2=A0
Librement


Thierry Vedel



Le Jeudi 27 f=C3=A9vrier 2014 14h48, Thierry Vedel <vedelta2000@yahoo.fr> a=
 =C3=A9crit :
=20
Bonjour,

Libre ne veut pas dire gratuit.
Tu peux tr=C3=A8s bien acheter un logiciel libre et le diffuser gratuitemen=
t.
Tu peux aussi avoir un logiciel libre gratuit et le vendre.

La plus grande partie des LL sont gratuits.


J'esp=C3=A8re ne pas dire de b=C3=AAtises.

=C2=A0
Librement


Thierry Vedel



Le Jeudi 27 f=C3=A9vrier 2014 12h41, Charles Freou <c.freou@laposte.net> a =
=C3=A9crit :
=20
Bonjour,=20

Je suis en train de pr=C3=A9parer une activit=C3=A9 pour mes =C3=A9l=C3=A8v=
es autour des
    logiciels libres et utilise pour cela comme ressource la plaquette suiv=
ante.
J'ai un petit probl=C3=A8me avec la d=C3=A9finition d'un logiciel libre :=
=20

"Un logiciel libre est un programme dont la licence, dite libre, donne =C3=
=A0 chacun, et sans contrepartie, le droit de : l=E2=80=99utiliser, l=E2=80=
=99=C3=A9tudier, le modifier, le=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dupliquer et le diffuser=
."

Mais si on peut l'utiliser sans contrepartie, c'est qu'il est
    gratuit ... donc libre =C3=A9quivaudrait =C3=A0 gratuit ...
Il doit y avoir une subtilit=C3=A9 qui m'=C3=A9chappe ...

M'enfin ...

Merci pour vos lumi=C3=A8res

Charles


________________________________
=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt"><div><span>Bonsoir,</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0=
, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,=
Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: =
normal;"><br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-siz=
e: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida G=
rande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span=
>Pour r=C3=A9pondre plus pr=C3=A9cis=C3=A9ment, il faut s'entendre sur le m=
ot libre.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; f=
ont-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans=
-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Certaine =
licences pr=C3=A9cises, non commercial, =C3=A0 ce moment l=C3=A0 je ne peux=
 pas commercialiser, les
 puristes consid=C3=A8rent que ce n'est pas du libre.<br></span></div><div>=
&nbsp;</div><div>Librement</div><div><br><br></div><div>Thierry Vedel</div>=
<div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style=
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ande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNe=
ue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size:=
 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> Le Jeudi 27 f=
=C3=A9vrier 2014 14h48, Thierry Vedel &lt;vedelta2000@yahoo.fr&gt; a =C3=A9=
crit :<br> </font> </div>  <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv692=
9306976"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt;">Bonjour,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Libre ne veut =
pas dire gratuit.<br clear=3D"none">Tu peux tr=C3=A8s bien acheter un logic=
iel libre et le diffuser
 gratuitement.<br clear=3D"none">Tu peux aussi avoir un logiciel libre grat=
uit et le vendre.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">La plus grande parti=
e des LL sont gratuits.<br clear=3D"none"><div><br clear=3D"none"><span></s=
pan></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:Helve=
ticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;backg=
round-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>J'esp=C3=A8re ne pas dire=
 de b=C3=AAtises.<br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Libr=
ement</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thierry Ve=
del</div><div class=3D"yiv6929306976yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display:block;">=
 <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <div style=3D"font-family:Helvetic=
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e:12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetic=
a, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <fo=
nt size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> Le
 Jeudi 27 f=C3=A9vrier 2014 12h41, Charles Freou &lt;c.freou@laposte.net&gt=
; a =C3=A9crit :<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div>  <div class=3D"yiv692930=
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  <div>
    Bonjour, <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Je suis en train de pr=C3=A9parer une activit=C3=A9 pour mes =C3=A9l=C3=
=A8ves autour des
    logiciels libres et utilise pour cela comme ressource la plaquette <a r=
el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.tice.ac=
-versailles.fr/logicielslibres/spip.php?article230">suivante</a>.<small><sp=
an class=3D"yiv6929306976vcard yiv6929306976author"><a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv6929306976url yiv6929306976fn yiv6929306976spip_in"=
 target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.tice.ac-versailles.fr/logicielslibres=
/spip.php?auteur138"></a><br clear=3D"none">
        <big>J'ai un petit probl=C3=A8me avec la d=C3=A9finition d'un logic=
iel
          libre : </big><br clear=3D"none">
        <br clear=3D"none">
        "</span></small>Un logiciel libre est un programme dont la
    licence, dite libre, donne =C3=A0 chacun, et sans contrepartie, le droit
    de : l=E2=80=99utiliser, l=E2=80=99=C3=A9tudier, le modifier, le&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; dupliquer et le
    diffuser."<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Mais si on peut l'utiliser sans contrepartie, c'est qu'il est
    gratuit ... donc libre =C3=A9quivaudrait =C3=A0 gratuit ...<br clear=3D=
"none">
    Il doit y avoir une subtilit=C3=A9 qui m'=C3=A9chappe ...<br clear=3D"n=
one">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    M'enfin ...<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Merci pour vos lumi=C3=A8res<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    Charles<br clear=3D"none">

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