Return-Path: X-Original-To: jtadeusz@april.org Delivered-To: jtadeusz@april.org Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3ABA1530D37; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:33:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kFY6DN-xXWZR; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:33:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by pavot.april.org (Postfix, from userid 102) id 6143C1530D41; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:33:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BBE1530D1F for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:32:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sVYKFcHukKjY for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:32:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E224E1530D0E for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:32:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zimbra87-e15.priv.proxad.net (unknown [172.20.243.138]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A980B940034 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:32:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:32:50 +0200 (CEST) From: hfern@free.fr To: educ@april.org Message-ID: <428803828.1274604.1403177570361.JavaMail.root@zimbra87-e15.priv.proxad.net> In-Reply-To: <20140618200727.GC29866@april.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [212.203.82.154] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.0-GA2598 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Linux)/7.2.0-GA2598) X-Authenticated-User: hfern@free.fr Subject: Re: [EDUC] =?UTF-8?Q?Proposition_de_loi_visant_=C3=A0_rendre_obli?= =?UTF-8?Q?gatoire_l=E2=80=99enseignement_du_codage_informatique_=C3=A0_l?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=99=C3=A9cole?= X-Loop: educ@april.org X-Sequence: 6017 Errors-to: educ-owner@april.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: educ-request@april.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1403177583-19711-5229" X-Length: 4342 Status: R X-Status: NT X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent: X-UID: 0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1403177583-19711-5229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oui on est bien d'accord Hilaire ----- Mail original ----- De: "Vincent-Xavier JUMEL" =C3=80: educ@april.org Envoy=C3=A9: Mercredi 18 Juin 2014 22:07:28 Objet: Re: [EDUC] Proposition de loi visant =C3=A0 rendre obligatoire l=E2= =80=99enseignement du codage informatique =C3=A0 l=E2=80=99=C3=A9cole Le 18 juin =C3=A0 20:51 Hilaire a =C3=A9crit > Le 18/06/2014 19:11, R=C3=A9mi Boulle a =C3=A9crit : > > Utiliser des logiciels et ressources privateurs =C3=A0 l'=C3=A9cole, c'= est rester > > =C3=A0 la plume d'oie du si=C3=A8cle dernier. > C'est pas =C3=A9vident que cet argument soit vrai, donc tr=C3=A8s glissan= t. >=20 L'analogie n'est pas forc=C3=A9ment bonne. En revanche, utiliser des logiciels privateurs =C3=A0 l'=C3=A9cole, c'est encourager l'utilisation de la Plume Sergent Major homologu=C3=A9e, permettant =C3=A0 des gens de rendre le march=C3=A9 captif. Une fois que tu= as appris =C3=A0 =C3=A9crire avec, tu n'ach=C3=A8teras plus que celle l=C3=A0,= alors que tu peux aussi bien =C3=A9crire avec des plumes d'oies ou des plumes en fer de marques concurrentes, ou des plumes en fer qui ne sont pas prot=C3=A9g=C3= =A9s par des droits voisins qui en emp=C3=AAchent la duplication et l'am=C3=A9liorat= ion. ------------=_1403177583-19711-5229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; name="message-footer.txt" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="message-footer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Pour gérer votre abonnement à la liste educ et vos informations personnelles : http://listes.april.org/wws/info/educ ------------=_1403177583-19711-5229--