Return-Path: X-Original-To: jtadeusz@april.org Delivered-To: jtadeusz@april.org Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D631140013; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:24:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FPoQcWYPYit7; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:24:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by pavot.april.org (Postfix, from userid 102) id ABD5E11405C6; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:24:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304C2153061F for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:24:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b-osTRvNlthf for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.198]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E24A91530619 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mfilter5-d.gandi.net (mfilter5-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.132]) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86199FB8A0 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:24:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter5-d.gandi.net Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]) by mfilter5-d.gandi.net (mfilter5-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gUiDsvBc7exj for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:24:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 109.190.109.123 Received: from mage.lix.polytechnique.fr (ee.april.org [109.190.109.123]) (Authenticated sender: fpoulain@metrodore.fr) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1FEA9FB8AC for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:24:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:24:39 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?RnJhbudvaXM=?= Poulain To: educ@april.org Message-ID: <20140707102439.403544b4@mage.lix.polytechnique.fr> In-Reply-To: <53BA5686.9000606@drgeo.eu> References: <892287071.37891301.1404676826928.JavaMail.root@zimbra18-e3.priv.proxad.net> <20140707093159.2c87b8fb@mage.lix.polytechnique.fr> <53BA5686.9000606@drgeo.eu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [EDUC] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Quelle_devrait-=EAtre_la_position_de_l?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=27April_=3F?= X-Loop: educ@april.org X-Sequence: 6063 Errors-to: educ-owner@april.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: educ-request@april.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1404721490-19711-7610" X-Length: 4803 Status: R X-Status: NT X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: X-KMail-MDN-Sent: X-UID: 0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1404721490-19711-7610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Mon, 07 Jul 2014 10:12:54 +0200, Hilaire Fernandes a =E9crit : > > La premi=E8re et la seconde peuvent =EAtre pertinentes ; ensuite =E7a > > d=E9pend du contexte et des d=E9tails du programme et du fonctionnement > > (par contre je ne vois pas le lien entre les SVT et > > l'informatique ...).=20=20 >=20 > ExAO ? Mais c'est dans ce cas l'utilisation de l'informatique comme=20 > outil Il me semble aussi. > et non dans le sens programmation, quoique... Certes. Mais =E0 titre perso je pense que ce n'est pas la programmation qui doit primer. Ce qui doit primer, c'est la d=E9mystification de la plan=E8te =AB informatique =BB. La programmation y participe ; mais seulement dans une petite mesure. Et on peut tout =E0 fait faire de la programmation (et parcourir des pans =E9normes de choses possibles et imaginables en programmmation) sans comprendre grand chose de ce que fait un ordinateur. Fran=E7ois --=20 Fran=E7ois Poulain ------------=_1404721490-19711-7610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; name="message-footer.txt" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="message-footer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Pour gérer votre abonnement à la liste educ et vos informations personnelles : http://listes.april.org/wws/info/educ ------------=_1404721490-19711-7610--