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    Bonjour, <br>
    <br>
    Pr=C3=A9cision compl=C3=A9mentaires sur le pdf<br>
    Il existe effectivement=C2=A0 des cas o=C3=B9 le texte est stock=C3=A9 =
sous forme
    d'image, mais c'est assez rare (PAO complexe).=C2=A0 Le reste du temps =
le
    format pdf inclut le texte. surtout si l'original vient de logiciels
    bureautiques OOo, LibreOffice (et m=C3=AAme Office).. On peut m=C3=AAme=
 aussi
    un copier coller rudimentaire de ce texte sur =C3=A0 peu pr=C3=A8s tous=
 les
    lecteurs pdf et les navigateurs web. <br>
    Dans certains readers, il y a une fonction de sauvegarde d'un doc
    pdf en .txt. <br>
    Ce n'est pas parfait, notamment au niveau des retours =C3=A0 la ligne et
    de la mise en page. mais cela pourrait certainement suffire aux
    logiciels de vocalisation.<br>
    <br>
    Il existe un outil (lic. BSD) d'extraction de ce texte, dans
    SourceForge. <a
      href=3D"http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdf2textpilot/">pdf2text</a>.=
<br>
    ainsi que de nombreux utilitaires ou sites faisant ce boulot. <br>
    <p id=3D"description" itemprop=3D"description">cf l'article PDF sur
      Wikip=C3=A9dia.<br>
      Bon courage..<br>
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    <p itemprop=3D"description">Nicolas<br>
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    <br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/09/2014 12:35, fabio a =C3=A9crit=
=C2=A0:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite=3D"mid:541D588C.6090409@ac-reims.fr" type=3D"cite">Bon=
jour,
      <br>
      <br>
      Voir ici
      <br>
      <br>
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/s=
ynthese_vocale">http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/synthese_vocale</a>
      <br>
      <br>
      Le probl=C3=A8me pour le pdf est qu'il poss=C3=A8de un syst=C3=A8me d=
e gestion
      des droits. Quand un document est prot=C3=A9g=C3=A9, il peut ne pas
      permettre la lecture du texte, le texte =C3=A9tant enregistr=C3=A9 gr=
osso
      modo sous forme d'image. Dans ce cas, la seule solution est de
      passer par un logiciel d'ocr pour r=C3=A9cup=C3=A9rer le texte.
      <br>
      <br>
      Bon WE,
      <br>
      Fabio
      <br>
      <br>
      Le 20/09/2014 10:29, Marie-Odile Morandi a =C3=A9crit :
      <br>
      <blockquote type=3D"cite">Bonjour,
        <br>
        <br>
        Si vous avez des r=C3=A9ponses, merci pour lui.
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        /Amicalement
        <br>
        Marie-Odile Morandi
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        Sujet :=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [LDT] lecteur vocal Pdf
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        Date :=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:23:25 +0200
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        De :=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Alain <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396=
E" href=3D"mailto:besson.alain@sfr.fr">&lt;besson.alain@sfr.fr&gt;</a>
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        R=C3=A9pondre =C3=A0 :=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Alain <a class=3D"mo=
z-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:besson.alain@sfr.fr">&lt;besson.alain@s=
fr.fr&gt;</a>
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        Pour :=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated=
" href=3D"mailto:adherent-pagestec@cru.fr">adherent-pagestec@cru.fr</a>, <a=
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        Bonjour,
        <br>
        ayant des =C3=A9l=C3=A8ves qui ne lisent pas ou tr=C3=A8s mal, je r=
echerche un
        lecteur vocal pour lire les pdf.
        <br>
        je sais qu=E2=80=99il existe des solutions payantes mais cela ne re=
ntre
        pas dans mon budget.
        <br>
        Si vous connaissez une solution je suis preneur.
        <br>
        <br>
        Cordialement Alain
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