Return-Path: X-Original-To: jtadeusz@april.org Delivered-To: jtadeusz@april.org Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A423780C6; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:22:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id flWZC6fd7Ryr; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:22:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by pavot.april.org (Postfix, from userid 102) id B588C3780ED; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:22:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29AF37805D for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:21:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gd9tnKMhmNBZ for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:21:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55B7037804F for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:21:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mfilter31-d.gandi.net (mfilter31-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.162]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E842B17209D for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:21:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter31-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter31-d.gandi.net (mfilter31-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GtkEAVsS90Qf for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:21:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 193.54.227.222 Received: from [192.168.4.111] (unknown [193.54.227.222]) (Authenticated sender: mail@remiboulle.fr) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DB87172074 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:21:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5432A57B.5030201@remiboulle.fr> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:21:47 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?UsOpbWkgQm91bGxl?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: educ@april.org References: <5431945C.6040207@remiboulle.fr> <20141006040212.2e182376@azuki.jisui> <54325B00.1080600@laposte.net> In-Reply-To: <54325B00.1080600@laposte.net> Subject: Re: [EDUC] =?UTF-8?Q?Caf=C3=A9_p=C3=A9dagogique_et_microsoft_=3A_?= =?UTF-8?Q?nouvel_=C3=A9pilogue?= Reply-To: =?UTF-8?B?UsOpbWkgQm91bGxl?= X-Loop: educ@april.org X-Sequence: 6297 Errors-to: educ-owner@april.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: educ-request@april.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1412605318-12145-88" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1412605318-12145-88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 06/10/2014 11:04, ROYER Jean-Yves a =C3=A9crit : > Avoir des relations apais=C3=A9es aiderait probablement =C3=A0 se compren= dre et =C3=A0 > faire progresser notre cause commune au service de la jeunesse. Le soucis ici n'est pas qu'une soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 finance le Caf=C3=A9 (CP d= ans le suite). Mozilla est financ=C3=A9e en partie par Google, l'April re=C3=A7oit= des cotisations de personnes morales (mais plafonn=C3=A9es)... Le principal probl=C3=A8me est que le CP a une certaine audience dans le milieu de l'=C3=A9ducation en se disant "m=C3=A9dia d'information". Certains coll=C3=A8gues/d=C3=A9cideurs de l'EN ne font leur veille que sur ce canal = (si si !)... et on peut s=C3=A9rieusement douter de l'ind=C3=A9pendance du CP dans= ses articles (ou non-articles) dans le domaine des "TICE". D'o=C3=B9 ce questionnement r=C3=A9current autour de son mode de fonctionnement.... Questionnement que n'importe quel citoyen se doit de mener sur n'importe quel m=C3=A9dia d'ailleurs. Pour les autres "m=C3=A9dia= s" les r=C3=A9ponses sont souvent connues. On demande simplement d'avoir des informations sur celui-ci vu l'audience qu'il peut avoir :-) Pas de r=C3=A9ponse ne fait qu'entretenir le feu. ++ R=C3=A9mi. ------------=_1412605318-12145-88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Pour gérer votre abonnement à la liste educ et vos informations personnelles : http://listes.april.org/wws/info/educ ------------=_1412605318-12145-88--