Return-Path: X-Original-To: jtadeusz@april.org Delivered-To: jtadeusz@april.org Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A12BC6B06; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:36:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gcfM1vD7_RAH; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:36:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by pavot.april.org (Postfix, from userid 102) id AC821BC6B25; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:36:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E025BC6AF8 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:36:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from pavot.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y428HLXmwlUr for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:36:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pavot.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B382BC6351 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:35:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from zimbra18-e3.priv.proxad.net (unknown [172.20.243.168]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9CAD480F5; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:33:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:35:14 +0100 (CET) From: cnestel@free.fr To: Bruno Coudoin Cc: educ@april.org Message-ID: <110050063.169432120.1414424114650.JavaMail.root@zimbra18-e3.priv.proxad.net> In-Reply-To: <544E58A2.2060205@gcompris.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [192.168.241.87, 109.2.58.214] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.0-GA2598 (zclient/7.2.0-GA2598) X-Authenticated-User: cnestel@free.fr Subject: [EDUC] =?UTF-8?B?UmXCoDogUmU6IFJlwqA6IFJlOiAic2FsbGUgaW1tZXJzaXZl?= =?UTF-8?B?IiDDoCBBbGJp?= Reply-To: cnestel@free.fr X-Loop: educ@april.org X-Sequence: 6429 Errors-to: educ-owner@april.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: educ-request@april.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1414424200-12718-51" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1414424200-12718-51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Bruno Coudoin a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > Je parlais des utilisateurs en g=C3=A9n=C3=A9ral qui se tournent vers les= nuages=20 > et les mobiles. >=20 OK. Mais quand on dit "utilisateurs" j'entends marketing d'utilisation et non pas usages courants inh=C3=A9rents aux contraintes scolaires. Il nous faut d=C3=A9noncer ce marketing. Mais perso je vais plus loin, c'est toute l'id=C3=A9ologie *du* num=C3=A9rique qu'il nous faut d=C3=A9construire. Librement, Charlie ------------=_1414424200-12718-51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Pour gérer votre abonnement à la liste educ et vos informations personnelles : http://listes.april.org/wws/info/educ ------------=_1414424200-12718-51--