Return-Path: X-Original-To: jtadeusz@april.org Delivered-To: jtadeusz@april.org Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by storm.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3CB4BD163; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from storm.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id smAvd6upS8zQ; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by storm.april.org (Postfix, from userid 102) id 292504BD098; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.2.16]) by storm.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287E64BD082 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:03:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from storm.april.org ([192.168.2.17]) by localhost (spamvir.april.org [192.168.2.16]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NdjBKcxS08dq for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:03:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-wg0-f52.google.com (mail-wg0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by storm.april.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DB234BD056 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:03:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wgso17 with SMTP id o17so71153159wgs.1 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 01:03:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YXjg4QAVwEAvUq1sYiwKMPa6gKHKLeuG06hMzVLfi/k=; b=fX0JMV5y/SRuTTGPliyemZir9dDJChYcbjShC0IuylsO0FnCXMdTOqYHlZsfQdL4Mu meEk0RdzYwLKMSuLE5QSWiXPzOll/tdWt87w3j1D8ftjTehNAcUIDSrYiNz/x2o4haZd fWyJx49UJDcq0djvFcmwIJXpkiT2IixB/NOpknglcKE1Lymt0hLAW/ymmqNlvAhyPCo9 F7gcGgIv88QDo4kAdHSXNTdjwyqBJ2idzJEDxRd4p+njPArzTdV4GRrsyq6401FFdXFb fIKVx+pTA7x1UjFwOmMp5zmMIv+SuOxEt4r6c8JFhcH2ppAwYa745iz2eLB/CEoGC+Qa hCvA== X-Received: by 10.180.208.84 with SMTP id mc20mr3559619wic.38.1429949008217; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 01:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.17] (lns-bzn-50f-62-147-176-115.adsl.proxad.net. [62.147.176.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l1sm2243746wiy.20.2015.04.25.01.03.26 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Apr 2015 01:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <553B4A4E.5080501@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:03:26 +0200 From: Jean-Pierre Quentin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130330 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: educ@april.org References: <552EAC8C.6030604@voyager.archi.it> <552EC384.8060807@libertysurf.fr> <553AA15D.3070608@gresille.org> <20150424201810.GA3478918@phare.normalesup.org> In-Reply-To: <20150424201810.GA3478918@phare.normalesup.org> Subject: Re: [EDUC] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Projet_renseignement_-_bo=EEte_noire_et?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_algorithme?= Reply-To: Jean-Pierre Quentin X-Loop: educ@april.org X-Sequence: 7761 Errors-to: educ-owner@april.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: educ-request@april.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1429949012-15162-4" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1429949012-15162-4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +1 Le 24/04/2015 22:18, Nicolas George a écrit : > Le quintidi 5 floréal, an CCXXIII, mathieu.jourdan@gresille.org a écrit : >> Je ne vois pas comment une chose pourrait être à la fois liberticide >> (qui a pour effet de tuer les libertés) et inefficace (qui n'a pas d'effet). > Pas « qui n'a pas d'effet » : qui n'a pas l'effet voulu / annoncé / > prétendu. > > Cette loi est inefficace pour lutter contre le terrorisme ou n'importe quoi > d'autre effectivement utile à la société. > > Elle est en revanche efficace pour permettre de surveiller les citoyens > arbitrairement sans contrôle judiciaire. > > Cordialement, > -- Jean-Paul Quentin - P: 06 24 15 42 90 ------------=_1429949012-15162-4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- Pour vous désinscrire de cette liste : https://listes.april.org/wws/sigrequest/educ Pour gérer votre abonnement à la liste educ et vos informations personnelles : http://listes.april.org/wws/info/educ ------------=_1429949012-15162-4--